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The Stuffening!

Posted by BoMToons - February 4th, 2016


Working on some stuff! One project is a web game in Flash/Starling that is gonna be SUPER cool I hope:

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The other is a new STEAM/CONSOLE game about barbarians who puke. For this project I decided to get out of my Flash comfort zone and try some new development platforms. I played with Unity and its 2D tools for a couple weeks, but it was taking me a REALLY long time to get anything done. The workflow and 3D base (even for the 2D tools) was too unfamiliar to me. C# is also a much more strict language than as3 and I was feeling bogged down.

I was able to get things working, but imagining the amount of time and continuous learning curve involved with making a BIG game in Unity was starting to freak me out!

So I did some research into some popular indie games that are under development now or released recently to try to find an alternative to Unity that would still allow us to meet our goals:

1. Publish on Steam with local multi-player and controller support

2. Have the option to publish on consoles (xbox 1 + ps4 + Wii + others?)

3. Web preview support if possible (not necessary, but pretty desire-able)

4. Mobile support (not really likely, but nice to have the options open...)

It came down to a decision between Open FL and Game Maker: Studio.

Open FL was really tempting because it's based on Haxe and uses syntax and display list-style stuff that's very similar to as3 that I'm already comfortable with (it's also FREE). I could use FlashDevelop and feel pretty much right at home with the process, but (and this is a big butt) its console support is a bit shaky and it's fairly new and not as well documented and has a small-ish community (though it's growing). I've heard that it has some funky quirks and can be tough to port projects between platforms...

Game Maker, I had always assumed, was a cheap (in quality, not in price) method for high-school kids who can't code making games with a simple drag and drop interface. I thought it wasn't a serious platform for game dev and was more of an educational tool... then I started noticing that some NICE games are/were made with Game Maker (Hyperlight DrifterNidhogg, Nuclear Throne, Rivals of Aether etc.) Once I saw that legit games were being made with GM, my only question was whether it would be as unfamiliar to me as my experience with Unity.

So I downloaded Game Maker: Studio and tested it out thinking that, if it was a beast to learn, I'd fall back to Open FL...

BUT MAN IS IT AWESOME!

For someone coming from Actionscript and Flash, everything just seemed to make sense immediately. What took me 4 hours to make in Unity took me 20 minutes in Game Maker and I could see the whole game feasibly unfolding from beginning to end (unlike my anxiety about unknown hurdles in Unity). Game Maker actually reminds me a lot of as2 style coding rather than as3... which is kind of a good thing for me!

So, Game Maker it is for Barfbarians! A further bonus is that GM has better html 5 support than Unity so we might actually get a web-demo of Barfbarians out there before all is said and done.

To prove how easy it is, here's a gif of Barfbarians already running local multi-player with game pad support at 60 FPS! WOOOO!

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 Leave me your thoughts on all this, even if it's just to say "Hi!"


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I started tinkering with Game Maker in an attempt to make something for Pixel Day but never finished. I did like it though and I want to make time for it on the weekends to put together a shooter / teach the kids some stuff about making games. Kinda torn between GM and Construct 2 though. I think it will work well for Barfbarians!

I'm really liking Game Maker, it seems right up your alley given your affinity for as2 ;-)

The real revelation for me was the use of "Scripts" run through an invisible controller object which basically lets me puppet everything like I would in Flash and break everything up into discreet functions.

I might have to take a look at Construct 2 sometime... what are its pros/cons?

Have you tested GM's reliability with html 5 output? (I know Unity's webGL stuff sucks...)

Looking good man!

Thanks!

I only know the bare minimum about programming. But after reading some really great articles on Gamesutra ( http://www.gamasutra.com/blogs/author/DavidGalindo/880867/ ) from the guy who made "Cook, Serve, Delicious!" I decided that I need to give GMS a whirl. I haven't started yet. But I think I settled on an idea at least.

Looking forward to Barfbarians. That name alone aught to win you a lot of support!

GMS is probably a great intro for learning more about programming. It is quite user-friendly even for beginners! Good luck with your game project!

as2 4 lyfe

Ashkin scrip two point Oooohhh!

Super excited for BB.
If I can in anyway lend a hand to team Abobo (a tester or anything) please don't hesitate to ask.

I've actually been drawling some Conan type of stuff lately, so maybe I'll adapt some into fan art.

I'm starting work on my first steam game soon, but good luck getting onto console, I hope you guys make a big splash.

Thanks man, we'll definitely let you know if we need help. You've done quite a bit of pixel work right? And some BGs?

Noice!

:-D

Would probably love GM Studio too! Funny enough before getting into as2 I tried out Game Maker back in 07 and thinking it was pretty bare bones; especially considering the quality of as2 games at the time. Now I might just try it out!

Yeah, give it a shot!

Hi!

Hi Wiesi!

I sure have done a lot of both.

Ok, we're just getting started, but I'm sure we'll need help along the way and you'll be at the top of the list! :-D

I tried to come up with a funny comment that doesn't include asking for a free SCK steam key but I can't Dx

I really need to work on my comedy routine.

Running out of material...

Hey Nick, totally agree about GameMaker. We use it for Boss 101 and it is amazing. A great combo (at least for us) is Spine (by Esoteric Software) and GameMaker. We build all animation assets in Spine and import into GameMaker. Really easy and very intuitive too. You can get the low budge version of Spine and do most everything you need to do.

Best of luck!

-Tim

Nice! Is Spine like dragonbones?

Yeah, just checked out DragonBones and they look to do the same sort of thing. If it's what it looks like then yes, Spine is basically a DragonBones like thing that works with GameMaker.

excellent, I'll definitely check it out. Thanks for the heads up!

I notice the similarity with a certain movie bah-barian...
Can't wait to puke on my enemies, have them driven before me, and hear the lamentations of their women. ^_^

Never heard of it, but you have the right idea of what to expect from this game! :-D