Wiesi 2016-01-06 17:52:55

Haha damn you mentioned me! That's pretty cool! I feel honored!! :D
Your post is really interesting to read. To be honest, I always have a guilty conscience that I never write on NG about deeper personal stuff. That's mainly because I feel that my english is too poor to express everything right. It just takes a lot energy for me.
Regarding the amateurs vs professionals article, damn yeah, that was brutal to read haha! According to that article i'm an 100% amateur developer. Seriously, NONE of the professional notes fit to me lol. But I'm fine with that. I see myself as an artist and artist have a right to be psychopaths. I agree with Tom where he writes that he feels like the list could also be "Emotional vs Analytical". That sounds right to me.
Another thing is, I looked up the game studio of the creator of that article and ironically it seem to have shut down in 2006 or so. It doesn't look like that his insights led to big sucess or so. But I might be wrong ofcause. :)

Glaiel-Gamer 2016-01-06 18:09:24

Heh, I got no interest in currently working on a mid sized team... maybe in the future or something but at least right now I got work lined up on my own things for at least 5 years (in addition to bombernauts I'm working on some things with Edmund right now, its been mentioned publicly but no specifics or real announcements yet).

For me the pairing of programmer+artist+musician is the perfect trio for all the games I want to make... I have the technical skills to not really need any help or extra hands on the programming side of things. I enjoy doing design stuff too.

Also I don't think the market can really handle mid-sized teams right now. Every extra person you add is another 60k/yr or so your games need to earn to break even, and there doesn't seem to be any real correlation between team size and how much games sell until you get to AAA games or stuff from already well established companies like behemoth, klei, or capy.

That said it'd still be interesting to have a team in the future... I just would rather have successes of my own to build it off of (and pay people) instead of having to rely on revenue share... which no doubt people would be super frustrated with when a really good game (the type you'd need a team to make) takes like 5 years to finish...

FGIJonC 2016-01-06 18:59:58

Didn't even see the mention of the personality test at first. Anyway, I took it and I fall under ENFP. A Suggester- Anything is possible.

And funny you mention my acting because where it mentions a celebrity who falls under ENFP, it had Tom Hanks. But I'm no where on his level at all. I think I try to focus on too many things to ever be truly great at acting, but I dunno, that's a matter of opinion I guess.

The personality test was interesting even though I would sometimes agree with parts of both choices provided. It seems to fit me mostly, I think.

Wiesi 2016-01-06 19:02:27

I tried the test and I can't give a proper answer to any of its questions. Really, it seems impossible. Thing is, I don't even know who I am, it changes on a daily basis somehow!

Glaiel-Gamer 2016-01-06 19:05:04

that personality test says I'm a INFP-A but I'm pretty sure i'm an INTP and some of the questions were just a bit vaguely worded in that test ("are you a dreamer" wtf does that mean? sure? I don't make decisions based on emotions but other people's emotions are still important if you actually want to get shit done, depressed people don't get work done). Who knows, these personality things are a bit bullshit as people fit into a whole lot more than 16 categories.

Anyway yeah I agree that a marketing person would be good to have, I actually know a few people who are good at that, its just hard to justify paying for it when you aren't sure exactly how much of an effect they would have on it... A lot of "indie publishers" like devolver digital or tiny build still seem to have less than a 50% chance of publishing a "hit" based on steamspy numbers and it can be hard to tell how much of an effect they actually had on the hits

FGIJonC 2016-01-06 20:19:54

I didn't read that page, but after doing so, a lot, if not most of it, is pretty much me dead on. Almost weird when that happens. It's a blessing and a damn curse. I guess that partially explains why i haven't stayed at a 'job' very long, since I always longed for more, mainly the freedom to do my creative work. Sometimes that used to worry me a lot, like, if I ended up getting steady work doing acting or anything, would I eventually just hop around again? But I think since I'm interested in so much that I could do that ( acting ,directing, writing, and other stuff) so I think it leaves me well-versed in a sense, you know? Blessing and a curse, again, I guess.

The one thing I really need to work on is my self-discipline. Mainly because when you do films and anything if you have a team, you have to collaborate with people. I've also been wanting to decide on the next thing I want to film and have been loosely tossing ideas in my head. Though I'm almost deadset on what to film next. I just need to get my other film completely finished first, so yeah.

absoluteDETH 2016-01-06 20:28:58

Interesting post! I like the idea of you banding up with others in order to form a great team. I'd reach out and apply for #4, but my current goals for the future don't really leave that option open for me.

I had taken that test a long while ago and gotten INTP-A. I had agreed with that wholeheartedly. I just took it again and got ENFP-A, and seem to agree with THAT wholeheartedly...
Quite likely due to several recent life events that have been nerve-wracking and mind boggling. Over the course of that, I realized that I can't always rely on logic and my own thoughts. That's along and dramatic story though, too much for a simple comment! (Or maybe not. Depends on how I tell it.) In the end I guess it's just great that I perceive the change as a fact, possibly a positive, and not a negative.

In other news, FINALLY picked up Super Chibi Knight. I am giddy to play it, but alas I must wait out this horrid migraine before I may truly enjoy it.

FGIJonC 2016-01-06 20:43:54

Yeah it. Sometiems I wonder with things like that, do they seem accurate because we end up projecting ourselves into it since we've just done certain things that show up. Similar to horoscopes you know? Is there a scientific basis for the personality tests? That's probably me being over analytical (which is a thing of my personality type, haha) as usual.

Also, I just learned that Chibi Knight was worked on by you and your daughter, and that's fucking rad! If i ever have kids that something I would love to share with him or her, my love for whatever I do.

FGIJonC 2016-01-06 21:02:57

I almost feel compelled to look more into it, but I'm too busy with LEGO Batman 2 currently and thinking of my next film.

FGIJonC 2016-01-07 02:17:54

YEAH. Gotta 100% the game for NO REASON LOL

VicariousE 2016-01-07 03:07:33

Some article you linked, some post. At least it's all specific to your career, most info of this nature really covers business as a whole, with more emphasis on management... which is usually a bit heartless, but doesn't need to be, when the 'whole' suffers.

Anyway, just stopped by to say I skimmed all this, and am glad there's been an outpouring of support :3

Luis 2016-01-07 08:13:28

I got INFJ-T advocate. Ill elaborate when im not on my phone. Just wanted to write it down if I forget

Luis 2016-01-07 09:39:16

I recall taking that quiz before, this one wasnt spammy like the typical ones so i enjoyed taking it, very mobile friendly also. Pretty accurate.

In regards to a studio, i think if you had asked me years ago, i'd have written off the idea, partly because of my personality, i am not particularly a leap of faith guy, i like being very calculated in my moves, i have creative solutions, but i like to ground those solutions in experience and practicality. I think that sort of mindset is a bit challenging to really put the pedal to the medal and thrive as i figure one might need in a 'fuck my day job im going after my dreams' mindset.

I think present day, I feel like ive gained enough business acumen to be able to quantify my decisions based on goals (be it hard metric numbers or whatever). So I feel more empowered to be able to trust the decisions i make and as a result find creative decisions to justify them. I've also had the opportunity to 'manage' other people and I think that also helped me manage myself. I figure at some point I'd like to build something of my own but its always been one of those things when i have enough of my cards lined up. My personality is of being the worker ant that works all winter to stow food with the knowledge that winter is coming as opposed to trusting chance and winging it as obstacles present themselves. I dunno.

Overall I admire the risk takers of the world particularly in this line of business, glad theres people out there that do it, it inspires people like me, who are more overseeing and calculating where the solid investment in energy lies and then building upon that analysis

Wiesi 2016-01-09 12:18:57

I love you

TehEpicNoob 2016-01-12 02:37:54

If you do this are you still gonna make that school? ;)

MindChamber 2017-08-11 21:16:37

Super delayed response... found this post through the new search option. So my first paranoid instinct is to see what crap people are saying about me :-p
I got INFJ.. Im not sure but it sounds lame.
Flattered you considered me btw..... Though, at this point. after getting a house. I think Ive lost all courage to go out there and wing the art life as it were. Im also 4 years out of step.. The way I functioned I used to I love to work on other projects, prototypes, improve it and keep going. aIlot of my personal projects have stemmed from the satisfaction of completing bigger projects with others.. when I was at spiketv, Id work 9 to 10 hours sometimes., and go right home and work on pico-s unloaded. Ive tried to use that formula with a few other projects in recent times, like helpin on the nexus game, or trying to do a side game with others. But I just dont feel it.. Im not really sure what happened.This postal job was originally going to be a part time job while a braved a freelancing dry-spell.. After that initial first year hazing though,.. I'm quite literally too afraid, or too tired to do anything else... I say if you have the financial cushion to make that studio happen, and you have a product you have a really good gut feeling about. (and some marketing research to back it up).. you should give it a shot.